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ORIS
Htjeli bismo razgovarati o nekoliko tema vezanih za vaš rad,
prije svega o vašim crtežima kao svojevrsnom zaštitnom znaku i
o objavljenim istraživanjima te, s druge strane, o vašim izgrađenim
radovima, posebice mikro mjerilu obiteljskih kuća i hiperkontekstualnosti
takve arhitekture u odnosu spram specifičnosti lokacije. Možda
bismo mogli započeti s vašom posljednjom knjigom Graphic Anatomy.
U predgovoru postoji vrlo interesantna paralela između vaših arhitektonskih
crteža i ilustracija u biologiji i prirodoslovlju. Moglo bi se
reći da su vaši crteži po objektivnosti načina prikazivanja i
vrlo preciznom načinu crtanja vrlo slični ilustracijama botaničara
ili anatomista. Također je zanimljivo što se takva vrsta prikaza
mijenja od projekta do projekta, od jednog mjerila do drugog.
U knjigama Pet Architecture i Made in Tokyo imate jednu vrstu
arhitektonskih crteža, a ovdje sasvim drugačiju, vrlo preciznu
i naprednu. Možete li nam reći nešto o načinu na koji se služite
crtežima kao arhitektonskim alatima?
BOW–WOW
Uvijek stremimo pronalaženju jedinstvene prezentacije onoga što
želimo prikazati. U našoj prvoj knjizi Made in Tokyo htjeli smo
prikazati vrlo normalan okoliš, ne samo za Japance nego i za strance.
Za ljude iz drugog grada i druge kulture fotografija možda ne
obuhvaća dovoljno. Potom počnemo crtati ono što vidimo i objašnjavati
što je osobito u svakom slučaju. Primjerice, Super Car School
iz knjige Made in Tokyo je samo supermarket, ali koji na svom
krovu ima i vozačku školu. Ima poligon za vožnju, ulične svjetiljke,
automobile, nizbrdice za vježbanje kočenja. I u knjizi Pet Architecture
Guide Book elementi koji izviru iznutra vrlo su bitni za shvaćanje
prostornog iskustva svakog pojedinca. Mi tu kvalitetu prostora
- da je zgrada sličnog mjerila kao i klima uređaj ili samoposlužni
automat - nazivamo "prilagođavanjem".
Oris
U svojoj drugoj knjizi Pet Architecture Guide Book koristite prikaz
čovjeka sa psom, što je vrlo zgodno za stjecanje utiska o veličini
zgrade koja je zapravo vrlo malena.
BOW–WOW
Sama zgrada je vrlo mala, tako da elementi koji su kasnije dodani
oko nje, kao samoposlužni aparat ili vanjska jedinica klimatizacijskog
uređaja, imaju vrlo jak utjecaj na njen izgled. Made in Tokyo
i Pet Architecture Guide Book pomoći će vam u spoznavanju Tokyja
kroz njegovu arhitekturu. U tom slučaju ljudi mogu čitati arhitekturu,
analizirati je ili promatrati kao dio urbanog krajobraza. U četvrtoj
knjizi, u Graphic Anatomy pokušali smo pokazati i naše arhitektonske
detalje i ljudsko ponašanje prema svakodnevnim predmetima. U njoj
je nacrtan odnos između ljudskog ponašanja i građevnih elemenata
i prostorne organizacije. Primjerice, u tako malim kućama prozori
postaju iznimno bitni. Ti su crteži prvotno nacrtani u našem uredu
kao tehnički nacrti i detalji za gradnju, a potom su studenti
dodali perspektive sa svakodnevnim predmetima i životnim situacijama
kao što su sjedenje u kući ili uživanje okoliša iz unutrašnjosti
kuće. Prozori, osim toga, omogućuju stjecanje životnih vještina
kontroliranjem odnosa unutarnjeg i vanjskog. Knjiga je izdana
kao katalog naše izložbe u Tokyju da bi se lakše shvatili modeli
u mjerilu 1:20, izloženi u galeriji. Publika je ponijela knjigu
sa sobom u izložbeni prostor kako bi mogla uspoređivati naše crteže
i modele. detaljima, poput knjiga s detaljima arhitekata Makija
i Anda, iz kojih smo učili dok smo bili studenti.
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Oris
In this interview, we would like to talk about a few issues
relating to your work, first of all your drawings as your hallmark,
and your published research, and on the other hand your built
work, especially on the micro scale of single family houses, the
hypercontextuality of that architecture and site specifics. Maybe
we should start with you last book, Graphic Anatomy. There is
an interesting thing in the foreword, some kind of parallel between
your architectural drawings and illustrations in biology and natural
history. We could say that your drawings are, in an objective
kind of representation and very precise way of drawing, quite
similar to a botanist’s or anatomist’s illustrations. It is also
interesting that this kind of representation changes from project
to project, from scale to scale. You have one kind of architectural
drawing in Pet Architecture and Made in Tokyo and quite another
here, very precise and advanced. Can you tell us something about
your ways of using drawings as architectural tools?
BOW–WOW
We always try to find a unique presentation on what we want to
show. In our first book, Made in Tokyo, we wanted to show a very
normal environment, not only for Japanese people, but also for
foreigners. For people, from another city, from another culture,
a photograph may not be comprehensive enough. Then we start to
draw what we saw, and to explain what is special in each case.
For example, Super Car School from Made in Tokyo is just a supermarket,
but it also has a driving school on the roof. It has a driving
course; streetlights, cars, slopes for brake training. Also in
the Pet Architecture Guide Book, the elements spilling over from
inside are quite important to understand the spatial practice
by each individual. We call this spatial quality "customization"
when the building is at a very similar scale to an air conditioner
or vending machine.
Oris
In your second book, Pet Architecture Guide Book you picture
a man with a dog, which is quite nice to get an impression of
the size of a building which is actually quite small.
BOW–WOW
The building itself is very small so the elements lately added
around the building, such as vending machines or air conditioning
exterior units, have a very strong impact on the building’s appearance.
Made in Tokyo and Pet Architecture Guide Book help you understand
the city of Tokyo through its architecture. So the architecture
can be read by people, or can be analyzed or observed as part
of the urban landscape. In the fourth book, Graphic Anatomy, we
also tried to show our architectural detail and human behaviour
with daily objects. The relationship between people’s behaviour
and building elements and spatial organization is drawn in it.
For example, a window becomes very important in such small houses.
These drawings were initially drawn by Bow-Wow’s staff as the
technical detail drawings for the construction, then added perspectives
by students with daily objects and human behaviour such like how
to sit in the house, how to enjoy the surrounding environment
from inside the house. Windows also gather life skills on controlling
the relationship between inside and outside. The book was published
as the catalogue of our exhibition in Tokyo for the better understanding
of the 1/20 models exhibited in the gallery. Visitors brought
this book to the exhibition space and could compare our drawings
and the 1/20 models. This book is also our response to the previous
detail books, such as Maki’s, Ando’s, etc, that we learned when
we were students.
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